Hi asheto,

your dictionary seems to be already quite good!

Here are some remarks:

1. Sometimes there are several words which differ only by accents (e.g. there are four versions of ΔΕΚΑΤΩ). I think Scrabble3D will take only the first of them, so the others would be useless. Possibly you could write the different transcripted variants into one line, like this:

ΔΕΚΑΤΩ=deka_/tw, deka/tw, deka/tw|, dekatw=

I do not know if the equality sign "=" might lead to problems, since it has a special meaning for Scrabble3D (it marks the beginning of the explanation of a word). Just try, and if there are problems ask Scotty.

2. It seems to me that you do not give the English translation for inflected forms. Maybe the best would be to write first the corresponding lemma (base form) and then the English meaning of this lemma. You find these informations in the greek-analyses file.

So it might look like this:

ΕΔΟΘΗΣΑΝ=e)do/qhsan δίδωμι to give

3. The transcription is especially useful if somebody wants to look up a word using the Word Study Tool of Perseus. So that is really a good idea.

I have seen that there are one letter words in the list, for example those ones and maybe only those ones:

Α=a_(
Α=a_(/
Α=a(
Α=a(_/
Α=a(/
Α=a(=
Α=a(=|
Α=a)=

All one letter words should be deleted, since they don't exist in Scrabble.

Zitat von linhart im Beitrag #91

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3. The transcription is especially useful if somebody wants to look up a word using the Word Study Tool of Perseus. So that is really a good idea.

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Zitat von Bussinchen im Beitrag #93

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Asheto, you really do a GREAT JOB !!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!

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Zitat von linhart im Beitrag #91

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1. Sometimes there are several words which differ only by accents (e.g. there are four versions of ΔΕΚΑΤΩ). I think Scrabble3D will take only the first of them

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Zitat von linhart im Beitrag #91

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, so the others would be useless.

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Zitat von Bussinchen im Beitrag #92

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All one letter words should be deleted, since they don't exist in Scrabble.

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Zitat von linhart im Beitrag #91

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I do not know if the equality sign "=" might lead to problems

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Zitat von linhart im Beitrag #91

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2. It seems to me that you do not give the English translation for inflected forms. Maybe the best would be to write first the corresponding lemma (base form) and then the English meaning of this lemma. You find these informations in the greek-analyses file.

So it might look like this:

ΕΔΟΘΗΣΑΝ=e)do/qhsan δίδωμι to give

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Zitat von Bussinchen im Beitrag #93

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It would be great if also the grammatical analysis of the inflected forms could be integrated in the hints in some way.

What do you think?

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Zitat von Bussinchen im Beitrag #93

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is it possible to convert automatically (using a program) all beta coded words to "normal" greek words with diacritic signs and to add the latter to the hints?

It would be great if also the grammatical analysis of the inflected forms could be integrated in the hints in some way.

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Χαίρε, ὦ φίλε asheto.

Zitat von asheto

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It would be easy for us to delete the "duplicates" but:
a) they do no harm to the functionality of the software. They are "invisible" to the simple player.
b) the complete word list could be useful one day to another application

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Maybe you are right, asheto.

Zitat von asheto

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It would be easy for us to delete the "duplicates" but:
c) we may introduce later an extended polytonic Greek letter set, (with accents, spirits, subscript etc), for the hardcore paranoiac players :-)

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Exactly! I also have been thinking about a special Ancient Greek polytonic letter set with diacritical signs. In order to create that letter set, we'll need to make frequency analysis of the different letters in the corpus of our ancient-greek.dic.

Zitat von asheto

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We could release a version with all the additional info of the greek-analyses.txt, but that would result in a huge "inflated" file of about 100 mb size. It could be like this (see attached sample.zip)

ΕΓΚΩΜΙΑΖΟΝΤΟΣ=ἐγκωμιάζοντος e)gkwmia/zontos {e)gkwmia/zw praise pres part act masc/neut gen sg}
ΕΓΚΩΜΙΑΖΟΥΣΑ=ἐγκωμιάζουσα e)gkwmia/zousa {e)gkwmia/zw praise pres part act fem nom/voc sg (attic epic doric ionic)}
ΕΓΚΩΜΙΑΖΟΥΣΑΙ=ἐγκωμιάζουσαι e)gkwmia/zousai {e)gkwmia/zw praise pres part act fem nom/voc pl (attic epic doric ionic)}
ΕΝΑΠΟΚΕΚΡΥΜΜΕΝΟΝ=ἐναποκεκρυμμένον e)napokekrumme/non {e)n-a)pokru/ptw hide from perf part mp masc acc sg}[e)n-a)pokru/ptw hide from perf part mp neut nom/voc/acc sg}

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Νὴ τὸν Δία. 100 MB! This is really a huge file! But anyway: I myself would really appreciate the grammatical analysis very very much. Pedagogically it would be a great advantage for pupils and students to have these explanations. I think that the users of Scrabble3D that will play in Ancient Greek will mostly be pupils and students. And they will be pleased about such explanations. Don't you think so?

Εὐχαριστῶ, ὦ φίλε asheto, for all your efforts!

Zitat von asheto im Beitrag #95

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Let's take for example the one letter word "Η"...

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Zitat von asheto im Beitrag #95

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Scrabble3d indeed recognizes 878.067 words instead of ~1.100.000

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Zitat von linhart im Beitrag #91

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I do not know if the equality sign "=" might lead to problems

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Zitat von asheto im Beitrag #95

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...a huge "inflated" file of about 100 mb size

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Zitat von asheto im Beitrag #95

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...combining the available sources we have... (greek-analyses.txt, New and Old Testament text)

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Someone to play somehow at ancient greek scrabble even without numeric dictionary? I am ready and I can provide the letter values, obtained after statistical observations.
Usually I am playing alone with handmade board. XAIPE.

And the guest is now member, so you can answer me : Romain Vaissermann, from France. I am playing duplicate scrabble with handmade board and with open access to dictionary. XAIPE.