In those links, the points at the end of the sentences are included in the links, and the links with the wrong points open web sites that don't exist. Therefore the points have to be excluded from the links - then it works:
As far as I see, this means that the American rules should be applied in Scrabble3D when playing games using the english-phonetic.dic and the IPA phonetic letter set.
These examples show different pronunciations for the same words. But I'm not sure if these differences are related to American vs. British English or if both pronunciation variants are considered to be correct American pronunciation variants.
Since I have not studied phonetics of the English language, I would be pleased if Steve could give us a comment.
When I was studying the english-phonetic.dic, I realized that the entries are listed in alphabetical order following the order of the Latin alphabet, i.e. the alphabetical order of the hints (tooltips), not any alphabetical IPA order.
Now I have a question: Is there any standardized alphabetical order for special Unicode IPA characters?
I think a standardized alphabetical order for special Unicode IPA characters does exist. But where can we find it?
On that site we find the new British Council phonemic chart. It helps students hear the sounds of English by clicking on the symbols. You have to click on the top right hand corner of each symbol to hear sample words including the sounds.
Now we have only to eliminate all those signs that describe sounds that do not exist in English pronunciation, and we'll have the correct alphabetical order of IPA for English.
Steve, maybe it would be a good idea to sort the entries in english-phonetic.dic in this order following IPA order instead of following the order of the normal Latin alphabet in the hints (tooltips).
You should not change the sort order that is applied by the program (by the ordinal value of unicode character). Otherwise loading would take longer. But it doesn't matter how you sort characters at the letter set.
You can see that æ and ə are mixed. I don't think that Scrabble3D really has sorted the entries by the ordinal value of unicode character. On the other hand the dic with only 50675 entries being rather small it is loaded very quickly anyway.
Since there are formatting problems, you cannot Copy & Paste the letter set published on Help adding a new dictionary in the letter set table in Scrabble3D. A lot of errors will occur. That's why I recommend you to Copy & Paste the letter set from here instead:
ɪ 8 1 ə 7 1 t 6 1 n 5 1 s 5 1 ɫ 4 1 r 4 1 d 4 1 k 4 1 i 3 1 z 3 1 ɝ 3 1 p 3 1 m 3 1 ɛ 3 1 æ 2 1 b 2 2 ʊ 2 2 e 2 2 a 2 3 ɑ 2 3 ʃ 2 3 ŋ 2 3 f 2 3 o 2 3 v 2 3 ɔ 2 3 ɡ 2 3 u 1 4 ʒ 1 4 w 1 4 h 1 5 j 1 5 θ 1 8 ð 1 10
But as I said before, I prefer the correct alphabetical order instead of the wrong order applied above.
In those links, the points at the end of the sentences are included in the links, and the links with the wrong points open web sites that don't exist. Therefore the points have to be excluded from the links - then it works:
PS: This problem occurs when you open the dic in Notepad++, but it does not occur if you open it in Microsoft Notepad.
Fixed, I added a space before the period to make it clearer what the actual link is.
Zitat von Bussinchen im Beitrag #4feɪtəɫɪsts=fatalists feɪtəɫɪss=fatalists feɪtəɫɪs=fatalists
fətæɫətiz=fatalities fətæɫɪtiz=fatalities
fətæɫəti=fatality fətæɫɪti=fatality
æbdəktɪd=abducted əbdəktɪd=abducted
æbdəktɪŋ=abducting əbdəktɪŋ=abducting
æbdəkʃən=abduction əbdəkʃən=abduction
These examples show different pronunciations for the same words. But I'm not sure if these differences are related to American vs. British English or if both pronunciation variants are considered to be correct American pronunciation variants.
Since I have not studied phonetics of the English language, I would be pleased if Steve could give us a comment.
I believe both are correct, but I'm not exactly an expert either.
Since there are formatting problems, you cannot Copy & Paste the letter set published on Help adding a new dictionary in the letter set table in Scrabble3D. A lot of errors will occur. That's why I recommend you to Copy & Paste the letter set from here instead:
ɪ 8 1 ə 7 1 t 6 1 n 5 1 s 5 1 ɫ 4 1 r 4 1 d 4 1 k 4 1 i 3 1 z 3 1 ɝ 3 1 p 3 1 m 3 1 ɛ 3 1 æ 2 1 b 2 2 ʊ 2 2 e 2 2 a 2 3 ɑ 2 3 ʃ 2 3 ŋ 2 3 f 2 3 o 2 3 v 2 3 ɔ 2 3 ɡ 2 3 u 1 4 ʒ 1 4 w 1 4 h 1 5 j 1 5 θ 1 8 ð 1 10
But as I said before, I prefer the correct alphabetical order instead of the wrong order applied above.
I should be able to sort them according to the IPA alphabetical order without much trouble. I'll upload the revised version once I've done so.
Attached is an updated version with a default sorting algorithm. It doesn't give it in the exact order you listed from the website, but it does straighten out the words.
So where does the dictionary stand? I would like it to be included in the actual version of Scrabble3D, so have either of you made a decision if it is to be included or just left as a separate download?
Also, I wanted to say thanks to both of you for the quick responses in debugging the problems I was having. Both of you are awesome!
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